Pro Shop Gear and Equipment Groove Sharpener
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Posted: June 29, 2010 Views: 680 Replies: 13 Go to Last Reply |
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Hi Guys, I had a round of golf with my buddy yesterday - and I noticed he had a tool to clean and repair the grooves on his irons. When I asked him about it he told me it was a groove sharpener and that he had been using one for several months. Any of you guys used one or in fact own one. What is the consensus of opinion - do they infringe the rules in anyway ? My buddy was generating a fair amount of spin yesterday. I would be grateful for any feedback. |
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He was sharpening the grooves during play? That's odd.
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I'm pretty sure there's another forum on here that involves groove sharpeners. And if I remember correctly many people said they were ruled illegal by the USGA.
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I don't know if sharpeners were "ruled illegal" or not but the consensus is that if you sharpen the grooves you have changed the club to the degree that the club must now meet the new groove rule i.e. the club is no longer exempt until 2024. Probably didn't get all the technicalities correct but I beleive that is the substance of the issue. |
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72. You are correct. Found this on another golf site. May answer the original question. question. There is no problem in cleaning your grooves, but according to equipment guru Frank Thomas and a Q&A on his website: |
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Thanks Timothyjack for the research. That was my gut feeling so glad to see some documentation on it. Clean ok, sharpen, alter, not OK.
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Wow i am amazed at the negative reaction to a groove sharpener. I have played golf for 44 years and i never saw anyone checking the legality of golf clubs. I needed a new set of wedges, i have 4 because the grooves were bent and knocked about, i was shocked to find out that i would spend $430 on these, but the only thing no good was the grooves. I looked around and found (-link-cannot-be-displayed-) last year, i purchased one of their groovers it has a wedge shaped end that stops you digging to deep it made my old wedges good enough to not need the new ones, my wifes happy too she got a new dress from the saving of not buying new wedges. Maybe most of these guys on here can afford new wedges every now and again. I would much prefer keeping my old wedges up to scratch and have a happy wife taboot. My name is Mike this is my first post, good golfing everybody. |
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it's not a negative reaction. it's understanding a ruling. the fact that someone was using a groove sharpener during play is just ridiculous (and apparently not within the rules of golf). sure if I had some beat up wedges that I really liked, I'd try to sharpen the grooves with a proper tool, but I'd realize that these would not be allowed in a USGA sanctioned event.
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I would like to inform members of the opinion of a friend who is a teaching pro from Austria He saw the groover that i bought from groove sharpener dot net and tried it on an old wedge he had. After working on the grooves he used a measuring tool that checks groove dimensions. He was absolutely adamant that the grooves on his wedge remained legal although they looked sharper and cleaner. He was interested in the tool and wanted to see if it was OK to use. I only bring this up because it seems there is a vendetta against these groovers by some members. Mike Mossey wishing you all good golfing |
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I will stay with cleaning my clubs, Any Groove Sharpening will be done by a pro who knows what they are doing. After cutting meat for 12 years. If you don't know how to Sharpen a tool right your only going to shorten the life of that tool.
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A groove sharpener does NOT automatically render a club illegal by USGA rules. All it does is technically render the grooves in need of being measured again. And as I've said in the previous post, how many times do you play in a tournament where they measure your grooves? *AND* if you can hand-cut a groove deeper and wider than my Vokey spin-milled grooves, then chances are you don't need to bother anyway. www.groovesharpener.com I swear by it. And I'll *gladly* let anybody measure the grooves on my old Titleist DCI 990s and bet them $5 a groove that they're still legal. |
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BTW The 2024 exempt status for clubs not meeting the new groove rules does not start until Jan 1,2011. In other words you have until the end of this year to purchase or alter clubs to the old non conforming groove rules.
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If you give a wipe on the club face each time before you return it to the bag, you will not have a problem with dirty clugged up grooves. Even if you have dried up soil and grass in the grooves, use the sharp end of a wooden tee and run the tip through the grooves. No risk of altering the grooves. If you have an older club which has some parts of the grooves widen through usage, it's still conforming as long as you did not sharpen the grooves. |
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BTW The 2024 exempt status for clubs not meeting the new groove rules does not start until Jan 1,2011. In other words you have until the end of this year to purchase or alter clubs to the old non conforming groove rules. And if you don't think grooves matter, buy some Titlelist Vokey wedges with spin-milled grooves (not the CC ones but the ones now illegal on the PGA Tour) and watch the magic. I can see why the PGA Tour wanted to outlaw those groves. They're insane! I almost feel like I'm cheating ... and will be in 2025. |












